Not in war nor in riots will you ever find serious 'values' held up - I guess it's the thing that defines a state of riot. Now you claim that the origin of this lack of values should be found in 'multi-cultural values' or 'denying Europeans', but if you read the news it seems pretty clear - to me - that this has all to do with a felt social unjust finding a way out. (I mean, compare with Greece, Arab Spring, the French Banlieus, etc... no multiculturalism to blame there)
Sure these guys are serious dickheads, but they're just that.
French Banlieus has everything to do with Europe's multi-cultural experiment. Are you kidding me?
And Greece has everything to do with the gimme gimme gimme European socialist experiment. They think someone owes them a living. Once again, nobody owes them shit!
Arab Spring...well, hello Islamic theocracy. Which ties in with the riots in Britain and the French variety as well. (who do you think lives in the Banlieus?)
Socialist multi-culturalists and Islamists equals destruction. As we see in action now. And there will be more and more to come.
I wonder how will the government who uses the immigrants and their second-generation (multi-culturalism, dontchaknow), along with the promise of bountiful welfare to buy votes (yeah social justice there ha!), get their bought and paid for votes when it's all burnt to the ground and rioters run wild in the streets? Oh what a web they have woven.
@Anon4-5: First, don't throw anecdotal material around, the video above shows a white man starting to steal. He's an opportunist too and, of course, no one simply owes another his or her food, clothes, whatever. You're saying that thieves are bad opportunists, no matter who their ancestors are and that's so trivial I don't think I get your point. Second, it's weird to hear you talk about the 'gimme gimme gimme experiment' that others should be deprived of... It seems foolish to think that there's a nation where the inhabitants don't receive services from the governement - police, roads, whatever. They owe that to whatever person. The governement owes people shit and that's what these riots are about...people wanting more and better shit. Getting attention is part of that game, and group processes out of control that happen all the time (consider work by Asch, Milgram, Zimbardo and contemporary experimental sociology) explain away the rest of these (still terrible) riots. "Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you." http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/07/7292281-the-sad-truth-behind-london-riot
See, you seem to say that these riots happened because people demand something from their governement, which I am saying as well. What it has to do with islamitic ideals, and genetic patterns in certain races, or why this wouldn't happen in a racial homogenic population is beyond my ability to grasp. These people want something from their governement. Most of us just want to have a decent life.
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Europe is screwed. Ah, just gotta love the multi-cultural values which seems to be equaling out to NO VALUES!
Not in war nor in riots will you ever find serious 'values' held up - I guess it's the thing that defines a state of riot. Now you claim that the origin of this lack of values should be found in 'multi-cultural values' or 'denying Europeans', but if you read the news it seems pretty clear - to me - that this has all to do with a felt social unjust finding a way out. (I mean, compare with Greece, Arab Spring, the French Banlieus, etc... no multiculturalism to blame there)
Sure these guys are serious dickheads, but they're just that.
French Banlieus has everything to do with Europe's multi-cultural experiment. Are you kidding me?
And Greece has everything to do with the gimme gimme gimme European socialist experiment. They think someone owes them a living. Once again, nobody owes them shit!
Arab Spring...well, hello Islamic theocracy. Which ties in with the riots in Britain and the French variety as well. (who do you think lives in the Banlieus?)
Socialist multi-culturalists and Islamists equals destruction. As we see in action now. And there will be more and more to come.
FAIL!
I wonder how will the government who uses the immigrants and their second-generation (multi-culturalism, dontchaknow), along with the promise of bountiful welfare to buy votes (yeah social justice there ha!), get their bought and paid for votes when it's all burnt to the ground and rioters run wild in the streets?
Oh what a web they have woven.
@Anon4-5: First, don't throw anecdotal material around, the video above shows a white man starting to steal. He's an opportunist too and, of course, no one simply owes another his or her food, clothes, whatever. You're saying that thieves are bad opportunists, no matter who their ancestors are and that's so trivial I don't think I get your point.
Second, it's weird to hear you talk about the 'gimme gimme gimme experiment' that others should be deprived of... It seems foolish to think that there's a nation where the inhabitants don't receive services from the governement - police, roads, whatever. They owe that to whatever person. The governement owes people shit and that's what these riots are about...people wanting more and better shit. Getting attention is part of that game, and group processes out of control that happen all the time (consider work by Asch, Milgram, Zimbardo and contemporary experimental sociology) explain away the rest of these (still terrible) riots.
"Two months ago we marched to Scotland Yard, more than 2,000 of us, all blacks, and it was peaceful and calm and you know what? Not a word in the press. Last night a bit of rioting and looting and look around you." http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/07/7292281-the-sad-truth-behind-london-riot
See, you seem to say that these riots happened because people demand something from their governement, which I am saying as well. What it has to do with islamitic ideals, and genetic patterns in certain races, or why this wouldn't happen in a racial homogenic population is beyond my ability to grasp. These people want something from their governement. Most of us just want to have a decent life.
The English government has stolen, killed and robbed all over the world for the last 300 years.
This is nothing to do with immigration. On the contrary, it's a matter of Anglo- culture. Nothing to see here... move on.